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  Your flavor of creationism? Two types here to begin with...

  by Shining One in

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  if yec is your flavor of creation belief, you will find much to investigate here: .

  http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=news&action=view&id=9 .

  if oec is your flavor of creation belief, you will find much to insvestigate here: .

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  Shining One

  If YEC is your flavor of creation belief, you will find much to investigate here:
  
  http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=news&action=view&ID=9
  
  If OEC is your flavor of creation belief, you will find much to insvestigate here:
  
  http://www.answersingenesis.org/
  
  Either way you will find that 'the jury is still out' regarding origins!
  
  Shining One
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  Alan F's flaming arguments and insults

  by Rex in

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  hi alan, .

  have you ever looked at the carved up mountains, hills and valleys?????

  have examined the remarkable similarity to the mount st. helen's canyon that was carved our very quickly?

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  Shining One

  Good job on the interpetation of 'Shining One' and thanks for the serious comments, TW. I just like the name as translated in some Bibles. Our Lord quoted the text from Isaiah.
  
  I freely admit that the "camp is divided" on many issues involving inerrancy and infallibility of scripture as well as the questioned events, being actual or allegorical. Yes, the Bible has been written by and for the man who existed in the various ages 2000 years and many more years ago. But it soesn't end there, it applies to so much of today that it is uncanny and goes beyong coincidence.....
  
  You can observe the sacrifical laws and allusions to Christ frequently in the text of the Old Testament. So many ancient religions expected a messianic figure and lo and behold, He arrived at the time in history that would forever change the course of humanity. You must go beyond the text and look deeper instead of prattling about details (if you have to ask, "Who did Cain marry", you've missed the point of scripture). Get to the spiritual core and you will find the God/man there.
  He is there and prophecied of at the fall of man, in the sacrificial system, (Noah's ark is a 'type' of Christ!) in Joseph, Isaac and David. He fulfilled the prophecies as the 'man of sorrows' of Isaiah 53. He lived and died by eyewitness testimony and He is risen even now! We can look back at the cross and realize that in Him we do not have to be 'good enough', in fact, we cannot be 'good enough' to save ourselves. His righteousness is more than enough to all who would believe and accept the free gift of etnernal bliss.
  No man can ever demand we perform up to his standard to find the way of life that gives us joy. The personhood of Jesus fills that hole in our hearts that lust, greed and avarice can never fill. We are accountable to no one when we are in Christ.
  
  Go ahead, call out to Him and tell him that you do not believe and you need to see and hear from Him. I did so, He showed me and He keeps showing me all of the time!
  
  Shining One
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  Alan F's flaming arguments and insults

  by Rex in

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  hi alan, .

  have you ever looked at the carved up mountains, hills and valleys?????

  have examined the remarkable similarity to the mount st. helen's canyon that was carved our very quickly?

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  Shining One

  Hello Everyone,
  I was originally Worldly Witness and I turned into 'Shining One'. I posted as 'Rex' because I thought my password and identity were lost. I recently found my old online stuff...I was last here as a regular five years ago. I am no geologist nor do I pretend to be. I will post information that attempts to cast doubts on any naturalist theories that suits my fancy. If you don't like it, tough!
  No one can prove the events of the Bible are positively true. However, it is also my contention that 'scientists' have not proven much of anything that brings the infallibility of scripture into serious question. I do not have to defend any or all beliefs associated with the Bible. I will pick and choose what I defend or retreat from. I also do not contend that there is a valid explanation for every apparent contradiction (it is often misinterpreted) in the Bible.
  Don't be arrogant or condescending or I will simply not respond to you anymore. Unlike some here, I don't live my life to have endless debates on subjects that will never find us in agreement. I take scripture and the interpretation of it seriously. If you want an honest and beneficial discussion of scripture I am happy to oblige.
  You don't know my position on various subjects so please don't label me without a thorough understanding of where I am coming from. Violations of forum rules 1 & 3 are not appreciated at all. I don't play by anyone's rules except those of this forum.
  
  Shining One
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  The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - Ch. 21 - Pascal Got It Wrong

  by RunningMan in

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  pascal got it wrong

  what if youre wrong?

  one of my loyal readers (ok, my only reader) recently posed this question to me.

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  Shining One

  My advide is to take a look at your logic again but this time use a textbook so you can actually analyze Pascal's wager. Oh, and it might be worthwhile to read some C.S. Lewis.....
  
  Shining One (AKA Rex)
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  Explaining the hateful passages of the Bible

  by Rex in

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  here is a link to an author whose books may help you:

  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0060762055/ref=ase_agoramedia-20/103-0623759-2877415

  bishop shelby spong is of well repute in liberal theological circles.

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  Shining One

  Hi Tetra,
  
  You asked:
  >what does your book say about Mal. 2:3?
  Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, [even] the dung of your solemn feasts; and [one] shall take you away with it.
  just curious, as this is one of my favorite passages of all time.
  
  Do you want the literal interpretation or the meaning behind the text? Have you read the full context in Malachi and any allusions to previous scripture or interpretation by New Testament writers, since Malachi was one of the last prophets before the advent of Christ?
  Do you quote the text out of context for shock value alone? That is nothing compared to some text I could counter with and miniscule compared to the events leading up to and during the curcifixtion. I am more than willing to correspond with and teach those who actually want to learn. I will not waste time on those who do not.
  
  Let's see if you can figure it out on your own.....
  
  Rex (AKA, Shining One)
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  "Apostolic succession"?

  by Jokemyster in

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  since the wt organization claims "apostolic succession" who was it that passed the torch of gods spirit to c.t.russel when he founded the.

  organization?

  what denomination or faith?

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  Shining One

  Catholics and the JWs both have it wrong. There was no succession. Bishops presided over individual ecclesias up until Constantine declared the Bishop of Rome, 'Pope'. Even then, the apostasy begun there did not come to complete fruition until they adopted the 'immaculate conception' doctrine which made Mary the divine, Mother of God.
  God has always worked through individuals, prophets, judges, kings, etc...
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  not going to go to another meeting

  by overthehillgrandma in

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  hahaha got your attention didnt i...actually i am not going for a couple of weeks, going to have family here that i only see for a few weeks out of the year......i might not be on here much, but i will check back in once in awhile...hugs to everyone.. say lets plan a "im not sure party?

  " hehe well wanna?

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  I'm done with it. Little of the doctrine makes sense when you compare it to the Bible. I won't deal with intellectual dishonesty, the twisting of scripture, ignoring other scripture and outright lying about secular reference quotes.
  ShiningOne
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  heavenly hope

  by Shining One in

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  hi friends,.

  what the bible says about heaven: .

  *** rbi8 hebrews 11:12-16 *** .

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  Shining One

  Hi Friends,
  What the Bible says about Heaven:

  *** Rbi8 Hebrews 11:12-16 ***
  12 Hence also from one [man], and him as good as dead, there were born [children] just as the stars of heaven for multitude and as the sands that are by the seaside, innumerable. 13 In faith all these died, although they did not get the [fulfillment of the] promises, but they saw them afar off and welcomed them and publicly declared that they were strangers and temporary residents in the land. 14 For those who say such things give evidence that they are earnestly seeking a place of their own. 15 And yet, if they had indeed kept remembering that [place] from which they had gone forth, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one belonging to heaven. Hence God is not ashamed of them, to be called upon as their God, for he has made a city ready for them.

  All the other scriptures talked about are quoted at the bottom of this article for your viewing.

  *** w89 10/1 15 Do You Condemn the World Through Your Faith? ***
  21 The Scriptures clearly show what is needed to survive the great tribulation: a strong faith. Noah had such faith, but do you have it? If you do, like him you will become "an heir of the righteousness that is according to faith." (Hebrews 11:7) Noah survived the God-decreed destruction that came upon his generation. Not only did he live for 350 years after the Flood but he is to be resurrected with the prospect of living on earth forever. What a grand blessing! (Hebrews 11:13-16) You can share in that blessing with Noah, his family, and millions of others who love righteousness. How? By enduring to the end and condemning the world through your faith.

  Does Hebrews 11:13-16 say that? Where is the Society getting this interpretation from these verses?

  *** w83 3/15 21-2 "Be Joyful Forever" ***
  TRULY, we can be most joyful that the Messianic King, Christ Jesus, now reigns in a heavenly "Jerusalem." This is the city "belonging to heaven" mentioned in Hebrews chapter 11, and for which Abraham, Isaac and Jacob 'reached out.' They "publicly declared that they were strangers and temporary residents in the land" of Canaan, for they were earnestly seeking "the city having real foundations, the builder and maker of which city is God." But as with the "great crowd," who today have hope of everlasting life on earth, the "fulfillment of the promise" to those men of old must wait until anointed Christians have received their inheritance in the heavenly Kingdom.—Hebrews 11:8-16, 39, 40; Revelation 7:9.

  Read Hebrews 11:12 it speaks of a multitude & innumerable which would mean the great crowd, now read verse 16 which says "But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one belonging to heaven." Rev 7:9 speaks of the great crowd before the throne and before the Lamb. Now where is the throne before the Lamb located?
  Heaven.

  Does anyone know how to explain this inconsistency in the explanation?
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  Would you listen to a rumour?

  by Simon in

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  remember that article brothers?we have been up and running for less than a week and already have had accusations of apostacy bandied about.please stop and think before you make a serious allegation like this.

  imagine the hurt it would cause to a genuine brother if it wasn't true.this doesn't mean that we should let our guard down against those who would try and disrupt things or cause divisions amongst us but i'm sure these poeple would like nothing more than to see us fall out with each other.some of these rumours have been spread by members of other boards or people pretending to be them.just be on your guard to this sort of activity and help us by not passing on unfounded accusations.thank you.

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  Shining One

  I applaud your ideas and desire for honest discussion, Simon. You know that you are already going to be pressured to do as other forums have done. Has anyone asked you for your and p.o. yet?
  None of their business is my thinking on that. Take care.
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  What's it gonna be?

  by Frenchy in

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  some time back i noted on another board that what is really needed is a site wherein a witness can discuss his faith.

  not a site where everything that is not considered 'positive' is censored (what can you discuss then?

  ) and not a site for bashing jw's (if there is nothing positive, what's the point?

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  Shining One

  Hi Friends,
  I think that it is a horrible example for people to go around accusing others of being 'apostates' because their question or comment is not right out of the 'tower.
  I also prefer not to lable people who leave the org as 'apostate' unles they have left worship of our Grand Creator.
  Yahweh will rightly judge who is and is not apostate.